The Total Sound Of The Undergound

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The Gates of Slumber return with their self-titled album, marking a powerful comeback after over a decade. We explore the band's journey, creative process, and reflections on music, loss, and resilience.

1. Welcome back! How does it feel to release your first album in over a decade, and what does this self-titled record represent for the band?

Karl: For me, it’s a reset; the band has been through so many changes, and each time was a reset. I have always wanted everyone in anything I do to have a voice and a say in the band, so it just turns out that way. 

And it’s just good to make a record, and amazing that people remember. 

2. The Gates of Slumber has undergone several lineup changes since its inception. How has the chemistry evolved between you, Chuck Brown, and Steve Janiak since reforming the band in 2019?

Karl: I think it’s gone really well. Chuck and I had played together for years and it was like we’d never stopped, really.  Steve being on bass brings a new voice too, literally as he sings on almost every song and takes the lead on We Are Perdition. 

3. Can you tell us about the challenges of writing and recording this album during the pandemic, and how that shaped its final sound and themes?

Karl: Well it was tough not being able to get together.  Looking back for my part and feel like everything we did as a band was to protect the health of our families and ourselves.  So if someone was sick we just didn’t play.  

It was a weird and scary time and I think we all need to reflect on it.  A lot of people made some pretty bold statements and governments took some pretty wide reaching and not always logically sound actions during that time.

Put short it was an ugly time and frankly I’m still processing it. Right now I can tell you that I think for the most part the everyday walking around people had the best of intentions and the governments and bureaucrats, major industries - they used it to steal from the people and funnel it into their own pockets.  Right/Left. Whatever…. The oldest tricks work the best. Atomize and terrorize…..  and while they were getting rich. Lots of people died, there was a lot of loss. And I feel that at some point we need to get a little out of the nasty and woeful counter-cycle we are in and we need to disengage from the outrage machine and start to see each other as people.  Not as a series of labels, or identities, or nationalities, or whatever the fuck you want to call it because people aren’t that shit. We are individuals with our own stories and souls. And we need to start seeing each other as such.  Because if not it will get even uglier - all the ugly in the world stems from that: not seeing our analog in our “enemies”.  Like the Christmas truce of WWI, only happened once, because peace and a sense of the human family runs counter to the plans of the oligarchs and demagogues and ideologues….

Anyway, that’s just what I feel about it all.  I don’t speak for the other guys here. I’m just rambling on about my musings about the world. To directly answer your question, lol… I guess when I think about the waste of money and life and time and the grimness of the world recently it makes my music darker.  I process the world and my feelings by playing. Ever since I picked it up the guitar has been my conduit to get the feeling I can’t speak about out. There has been a deep need for catharsis. 

4. The new album features lyrics inspired by the Black Death and John Carpenter’s The Fog. What drew you to these themes, and how do they reflect the mood of the music?

Karl: The Fog came about like this: Steve had 3 riffs that we had been jamming on and nothing else.  The middle riff had a feel to it like being tossed on a stormy sea. And that started me thinking about The Fog and the betrayal at the heart of the story. And I took the perspective of Blake on his mission for revenge. I cobbled a rough arrangement together and we all took it from there. 

The Plague is actually a very old song or rather parts that had been lying around since the late 90’s. The time had just never been right to flesh it out. 

5. Doom metal is a genre steeped in tradition. How do you balance honoring legends like Saint Vitus and Penance while carving out your own identity within the genre?

Karl: I don’t think about that stuff anymore, I used to a lot.  My relationship with music has changed a lot. Life has changed a lot and the adage of a man never stepping in the same river twice applies most definitely in this case. 

6. Your reunion began with a performance at Hell Over Hammaburg. What was it like stepping back on stage after so many years, and how did that experience influence your decision to write new material?

Karl: It was a lot of fun.  In spite of the incoming pandemic I tried to have as much fun as I could.  And really none of us thought it would get as bad and as weird as it got…. As far as writing goes.  Well…. It’s easier for me to come up with something new than it is to try and relearn the shit I did 20 years ago.  It was never intentional, but it was inevitable that we’d write new stuff.  

7. Jason McCash was a crucial part of The Gates of Slumber’s history. How has his legacy influenced the direction of the band and this new album?

Karl: I think his absence is pronounced in the writing.  That is what I notice.  As Steve is the bassist it makes sense for him to answer this I guess.  It’s different for me but it’s cool.  Part of loss is finding a way forward and that’s what I’m trying to do.  I’m very happy with how things are working musically.

8. The Gates of Slumber has been praised by Decibel Magazine as one of the best heavy metal bands in the world. How do you approach living up to those expectations?

Karl: I don’t even think about it.  It’s very flattering…. But I don’t know how true it is. 

9. You’ve toured with giants like Pentagram, Cathedral, and Reverend Bizarre. What lessons have you taken from those experiences into this new chapter of the band?

Karl: The lessons learned on those tours aren’t half as important to me as the good memories I have, and the friends I made; and the experiences I’ve had, you know?  I miss all the people we toured with.  I often look back, with tears in my eyes at the grotesque glory that none will ever see fall, and gigs and tours are like everlasting shadows…….

10. The album features six tracks. Can you walk us through the creative process behind one or two of these new songs?

Karl: The general process for all the songs is the same there is a riff, and if I’m lucky a lyric or idea that comes with it. And we work it over until it turns into a song.  Or until it goes into the boneyard.  

11. You’ve released this album on multiple vinyl variants, CD, and digital platforms. How important is physical media to The Gates of Slumber and your connection with fans?

Karl: So long as people want a CD or a record I guess they’ll be made.  For me it’s more important to focus on my part of the process and less on the things that I know nothing about, you know?   I have my records, but I rarely buy anything new anymore. Maybe a CD to play in my car….

12. Looking ahead, what’s next for The Gates of Slumber? Can fans expect more tours or perhaps a return to festivals in 2024 and beyond?

Karl: These days I am the primary caregiver for my dad. Who’s old and in poor health.  It pretty much is the center of every day for me.  One day we’ll get back on the road and hopefully people still care then.  But we are staying busy we’re working up songs for a split that will feature some of the last music written by Jason.  And there is a lot of material that needs to be recorded.  And more on the way….  I’m good with how things are now, musically speaking….  I want to record and get this backlog of stuff tracked and released and when the stars align, we’ll play live again.  

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