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Liva, blending classical music with metal since 1997, continues to push boundaries with their latest album Ecce Mundus, exploring timeless human flaws through intricate orchestrations and evocative medieval texts.

1. Liva has been blending classical music with metal since 1997, creating a truly unique sound in the metal scene. What inspired you to pursue this fusion, and how has it evolved over the years?

It's a question of time and hard work. I work like a craftsman. I think a lot, I listen a lot around me, I listen a lot inside me, and I've always been concerned with originality. And that's the first thing I see in an artist, no matter what medium they work in. I've always had ideas, and I've always had to improve the way I work to develop my sound. I'm constantly evolving. My old ideas become new ideas. As long as I have ideas to express, I'm going to make music.

I give myself commissions and musical challenges, as if someone was asking me to compose music.

As in classical music, I really enjoy having a concept as a working objective. What I mean is that I like to have a long text in order to develop a long piece of music.

2. Your latest album, Ecce Mundus, delves into themes of antiquity and human flaws. Could you tell us more about the concepts and historical inspirations that shaped this album?

I take the text for what it is and what it evokes. I realized that some old texts could have been written today. We can see that some human problems and issues haven't changed much in 2000 years. I love the poets of the late Middle Ages, because their texts, sometimes bearing sarcastic reflections, are still very relevant in our times. So the texts are old, but set to modern music.

Since I am not a poet, this artistic choice, and not one of faith or belief, of exploring older texts goes back to my studies as a trained classical musician. The inspiration came from two things. In our academic career, I had done choral singing in various languages, and my wife, a classically trained singer, found that her voice sounded particularly well in sacred works, so it was at this point that I said to myself: “what would it be like if I put a metal version of the Mass of the Dead, a Requiem?”

After Requiem, in 2002, I was curious to do some research into secular texts, and that's when I discovered Alain de Lille. Since then, I've alternated my texts between the sacred and the secular, but always with a certain spiritual or philosophical undertone, with different ancient poets.

It's what has made my style and my trademark.

3. “Samson & Dalila I” is described as the flagship track of Ecce Mundus. How did you approach telling this story musically, and what emotions were you hoping to capture in the orchestration and lyrics?

When I compose, there's nothing chronological about it, and this concept is the oldest on the album. I had the intuition to set this story to music around 2008-2009, but I didn't have any music to support the story for all those years. When I invited Nadine to join the band in 2020, it was mainly to advance my songs, which really required

both a female and a male voice. Where the concept met the music was when I started working with my new 9-string guitar. I'm able to make music that's so heavy and deep and at the same time very high-pitched. My voice has also developed enormously in recent years. I finally had all the elements I needed to finish this song and many others. I wanted a heavy, dark Samson as opposed to a luminous, radiant Dalila. So for the video clip, not only was I able to find the song with this instrument, but I felt that in this song, all the elements that forge Liva's style were present.

4. The music video for “Samson & Dalila I” is described as a visual feast. Can you share some insights into the visual choices and the experience of creating this video?

I came up with the concept for the video. I wanted it to be as simple as possible, so that you could see the whole band playing while looking at each other. I chose a room accordingly to make it easier for the cameraman. For the story, I chose to have us dress up to play our own part. I wanted the story to be told visually throughout, but in short sequences. I'm glad I was able to find a cameraman, who also did the editing, used to working with underground bands.

5. You’ve incorporated Latin texts and medieval poetry into the album. How did you choose these texts, and what challenges or joys did you encounter while bringing them into a metal context?

On the lyrics side, I went the library and browsed through old poems from the medieval era. For this album, I read around a thousand of them and only a dozen could be matched with my musical inspirations. I’m always inspired by nature, mystical themes and reflections in poems.

Then I started to sing over these selected texts with the music playing in background. When the match between music and texts is done, I start the arrangements for all the band. Then I do a preproduction of the album that will be brought to a final result with collaborators. That’s it!

6. In terms of production, you’ve mentioned that Ecce Mundus features more developed orchestrations and heavier guitar parts. How did you balance these elements to achieve the album’s grand, otherworldly atmosphere?

Apart from having a lot of intuition, I have a very good ear, a highly developed musical sense and a lot of musical culture. It's this background that helps me make choices in my creative work. My approach is really that everything must serve the music and the song, in every project. The secret, as I found out with maturity and experience, is to create space in the music and let it breathe. I compose the guitar, bass and drums to make a block, then in the spaces where I've left room, that's where I compose the orchestration and all the additional lines. There's no point in stuffing a song full of elements. That's a youthful reflex.

7. With such varied vocal styles, from Pier Carlo’s death vocals and tenor to Nadine’s soprano, how do you manage the vocal arrangements to ensure they complement the intricate instrumentation?

It's the instrumentation that complements the vocals. For me, there's nothing complicated about it. I'm comfortable with all instruments, except the piano, that I

have never practiced per se. I've listened to and analyzed a lot of music in my life. Also, this ease comes from the fact that I sing myself in all registers, even imitating a woman's voice, and above all that I am both an instrumentalist and a singer. This means I know the limits of each instrument. When I compose, I always leave room for the next stage, the arrangements.

8. Liva is often compared to bands like Therion and Nightwish. Do you feel these comparisons capture your essence, or are there other influences that you believe are equally essential to your sound?

No, we don't have the same essence. We're contemporaries who've arrived at a certain result, but with a different signature. In fact, we had the same intuition at the start of mixing Classical music with Metal music, but each in our own country. When we played with them, I was able to exchange ideas. I'd say that Christofer from Therion is closer to me in his approach to mixing classical with metal than Nightwish, who are pop wrapped in a metal sound. In our career, it's mainly the critics and the media who have had trouble pigeonholing us, because they absolutely want to categorize us. It's always easier to pigeonhole than to try and describe the subtleties of a style. I think what makes us different is that we have a certain punch, and a very direct sound that comes more from Thrash metal, and sounds that evoke a mystical depth.

9. As a band from Sherbrooke, Québec, how has the local metal scene influenced or supported Liva's journey, especially given your distinctive genre fusion?

The local scene didn't influence me because the music I listened to came from elsewhere. But the Sherbrooke public is very open-minded. The public has always followed Liva's evolution. Same thing in Montreal, because there are a lot of people and a lot of producers. We have fans who have really followed us from the start, and we've left a lasting mark on the metal scene, I think. Elsewhere in the world, with music and videos, too. Now all we have to do is get out of our country and into Europe, Asia and South America.

10. What do you hope listeners take away from Ecce Mundus, especially in terms of its messages on human nature, and what’s next for Liva as you continue to explore these epic, orchestral landscapes?

Apart from the fact that it is, in my opinion, a musically masterful album, that we need to keep developing our spirituality, or be sensitive to a sense of connexion to the world, so that the greed and the attachment to material things doesn't drive us crazy. That we need to enjoy happy situations, because they don't come along very often.

And that silence is a treasure!

The next steps in terms of compositions, not now though, because right now is the time to enjoy the promotion stage of the album. I would like to release Ecce mundus in vinyl edition. Of course, we're still playing live here, but we're also hoping to play in Europe, the USA and South America, because there are so many good metal crowds over there!

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