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Dissocia is a visionary project uniting members of Persefone and Wormed. In this interview, Daniel R. Flys discusses their debut album To Lift The Veil, its inspirations, and the creative process behind it.

1. Dissocia is a unique collaboration between members of Persefone and Wormed. How did the idea for this duo come about, and what inspired you to blend your distinct styles into this project?

Before I even joined Persefone, I had already started writing this album on my own. It was one of those times in my life when I didn’t have any projects going on, and I just wanted to create something without limitations. Once most of the album was mapped out, I thought to myself, "I need a drummer who can play incredibly fast but also handle odd, complex and chaotic rhythms." Gabriel immediately came to mind. His work with Wormed is absolutely astounding, and that alone was reason enough to reach out to him. Years later, we now share this project together, and I consider him a dear friend!

2. The concept of "To Lift The Veil" is intriguing, exploring the metaphor of a growing seed in an asphalted world. Can you elaborate on how this concept influenced your songwriting and the album's overall narrative?

Although I wouldn’t consider this a linear concept album, it makes a lot of sense in my mind. Most of the lyrics are rooted in personal experiences, and I used this album as a way to release all the bottled-up emotions I had over the years. To Lift the Veil is a classic metaphor for thriving in places where you suffer. A seed may grow in fertile soil, but it can also find life in the most unexpected places. I think the album cover attempts to capture this idea. I wanted something that represented both beauty and chaos, something painful yet powerful. Rein Van Oyen, the artist, did an incredible job bringing this vision to life and truly nailed the message.

3. Your influences span a broad spectrum, from Cynic and Gojira to Venetian Snares and Hans Zimmer. How did you manage to incorporate these diverse inspirations into your progressive metal sound?

Writing this album wasn’t something I had planned. When you write a debut album for a project, it’s often a little different from when you’re already established in the music industry. There are no outside expectations, you have all the time you need, and you’re free to experiment with new sounds. That’s exactly what I did. I came from a stricter death metal scene in my younger years, and I was eager to create something different. Looking back, I still believe this style of music represents who I am much more. I’ve always been a curious person—I’ve played different instruments and even sang in gospel choirs. Incorporating all these elements felt completely organic to me. I write music intuitively, and at that time, I was following a sound that simply felt right. And this was it at that time.

4. The album includes ferocious riffs, dreamy synths, and cinematic violin layers. Can you walk us through your creative process for combining these elements while maintaining a cohesive sound?

To build on what I said in the last question, most of the songs actually started with the synth sounds and chords. I approached songwriting very differently on this album. For me, melody and atmosphere were the first things that needed to be right, and once I had that, the riffs and other instruments naturally grew from that foundation.

5. Max Morton is known for his work with Jinjer and Ignea. What was it like working with him on mixing and mastering, and how did his expertise shape the final sound of the album?

Working with Max was nothing short of a blessing! He’s an incredibly talented engineer with an excellent ear for tracking and mixing, and beyond that, he’s a wonderful human being. He was easygoing, supportive of my vision for the project’s sound, and an absolute pleasure to work with. I have nothing but praise for him.

6. Rein Van Oyen's artwork for the album is stunning and complements the music's dynamic nature. How did you collaborate with him to ensure the visuals aligned with your musical vision?

Working on the album artwork with Rein was an unexpected but incredible experience. I came across his work online and had a strong feeling that he was the right person for the job. When I reached out, we spent months collaborating closely, shaping the album cover you see today. Neither of us had a fixed vision at the start—we simply followed what the music felt like to us. His expertise across various digital and artistic mediums brought something truly unique to life. Beyond that, I now consider him a friend, and to me, he played a crucial role in bringing Dissocia to life.

7. Tracks like "Existentialist" and "The Lucifer Effect" suggest deep philosophical and psychological themes. What inspired these themes, and how do they reflect the personal or collective experiences of the band?

I've always been someone who questions everything, all the time. From a young age, philosophy and psychology fascinated me, and I see my music as a way to express the themes that linger in my mind. The Lucifer Effect, for instance, is named after a theory by psychologist Philip Zimbardo, based on an experiment that didn’t go as planned. He proposed that under extreme circumstances, anyone is capable of becoming evil. Like everyone, I’ve faced moments where I’ve confronted a darkness within myself—one I would never let see the light of day. That song explores the idea that we all carry a shadow inside us.

8. The combination of extreme metal, synthwave, and dreamwave is a bold choice. What challenges did you face while merging these genres, and what do you hope listeners take away from this unique blend?

Like I mentioned before, this album came together organically, and beyond the challenges of writing, I felt truly at home with this blend of styles. I hope others resonate with the music, but at the end of the day, that’s beyond my control. If you're reading this and enjoy my music, thank you—I truly appreciate it!

9. Paul R. Flys' cinematic violin layers add a distinct texture to the album, especially on "Out of Slumber." How did his contributions enhance the album's emotional and atmospheric depth?

Paul is my little brother, and I always like to have him on my recordings, one way or the other. He is my best friend and having him add his touch on my songs is something that gives me a lot of joy and comfort. On this album, he added violin layers that, in my opinion, made the song feel even more intense. The ending of Out of Slumber is especially rich with violins, layered over all the other sounds we created with the rest of the instruments. It felt like the perfect, conclusive way to close the album.

10. With "To Lift The Veil" set to release in March, what are your plans for promoting the album? Can fans expect live performances, music videos, or additional surprises from Dissocia in the near future?

I can’t share too much just yet, but I’m planning to form a full live band and bring Dissocia to the stage. There are also a few more surprises in store—so stay tuned!

Lastly, I just want to say thank you for all the thoughtful questions. Cheers!

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