The Total Sound Of The Undergound

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In this interview with John Bush, we explore ARMORED SAINT’s upcoming ninth studio album, their evolution over four decades, insights on their creative process, and the excitement surrounding anniversary tours and fan loyalty.


1. First off, congrats on hitting the studio soon! What can fans expect from this upcoming ninth studio album? Any themes or sounds you’re diving into this time around?

It’s feeling a bit different to me. PTS and WIN were awesome but this one is taking on a new shape. Still powerful, still hard rock, heavy metal and always Armored Saint but a little different. Lots of various themes. As usual there’s a plethora of stuff to write about but I can’t give it away yet. 

2. John mentioned you're nearly done writing — how would you describe the vibe of the new material compared to your previous work, especially Punching the Sky?

For me it’s always about pushing myself. Not repeating melodies, lyrics, ideas. It’s not easy after all this time. I (we) have written a lot of songs! In the end I want every record to have it's own vibe. Not like 30 years of records that sound like they can all be on the same record. That’s boring and honestly safe as far as I'm concerned. Challenge myself as a writer. As a singer. Don’t just mail it in. 

3. You’ll be kicking things off at 606 Studios with drum recordings — what made you choose that studio, and what’s the process like when ARMORED SAINT starts laying down tracks?

Who does’t want to work at Dave Grohl’s place??? We’ve actually been tracking demos for over a year. Joey creates templates that sound like records themselves. I sing to it with the intention of trying to keep most stuff. We go back and make minor changes, improvements, fix some some sour notes. Everybody adds their parts to the template, including the drums. It’s very efficient.  

4. It’s been 40 years since Delirious Nomad! Looking back, what do you think made that album such a standout moment in your career?

Delirious followed up March and although March was great in its own way there were things we didn’t want to repeat. The polished sound of the record being the main thing. Delirious was much more adventurous sound and song writing wise. Even though at the time it threw the label for a loop it really has stood the test of time. 

5. The micro sets of Delirious Nomad tracks on tour are an awesome idea. How did you go about picking which five songs to include, and are there any deep cuts fans should be stoked to hear live again?

We haven’t picked em yet and hopefully we’ll alternate it a bit every night. In the hole was always one of my favorites and Your never alone was one of the first songs we ever wrote. Have’t played those on tour in the states in years. Probably since 86!

6. You’ve got a special Dean guitar release coming up, wrapped in Delirious Nomad artwork and signed by the band. How involved were you in designing this collector’s piece, and what does it mean to you personally?

They did a great job with it. Looks awesome. Me personally? None. But I’m happy with the result. Fans will be stoked. It just honors the album, which is great.

7. You’re hitting the road with both W.A.S.P. in the UK and Michael Schenker in the US — that’s an iconic lineup. What are you most looking forward to about those runs, and how will each leg differ in energy and setlist?

The WASP shows in England should be awesome. Pretty big halls. We’re playing the Hammersmith Odeon! Now it’s called the Apollo but come on No sleep till Hammersmith!! Michael Schenker is arguably the best guitar player of all time in my opinion. Enough said. 50 minute sets. The Delirious one will be with Michael. We’re going to crush as we always do.

8. You’re also returning to El Paso for the first time since 1984 and playing The Glass House in Pomona for the first time ever — what’s it like returning to places with so much history or discovering new stages after all these years?

The last time we played El Paso was 1985 with Metallica at the Big Apple. Ridiculous we haven’t been back. Everyone has played the Glass house. Dumb we haven’t. Excited about both!

9. ARMORED SAINT has always had a loyal fanbase. What do you think has been the key to staying relevant and connected with fans over four decades?

We're blue collar no nonsense guys. We come from humble beginnings and not a whole lot has changed except the lack of hair and wrinkles. I think we’re pretty sincere guys. I wouldn’t have it any other way.

10. With all these milestones — new record, anniversary celebrations, major tours — what’s keeping ARMORED SAINT inspired and hungry this deep into your career?

There’s new music to make. Things to say. New places to play, or haven’t played in years. We still get along pretty well after all this time which is remarkable. Go until I can’t. My body will tell me when I’m done. 

11. Finally, what message do you have for the diehard SAINT fans who’ve been with you from March of the Saint to now, and for the new fans discovering you through these epic anniversary shows?

Thanks so much for all the love and loyalty. Without them we’re still in the Sandoval garage. 

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